xXKiddkasHXx
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Post by xXKiddkasHXx on Feb 3, 2014 12:44:10 GMT -5
I just want to get an idea of where people will end up going with the next generation consoles. Vote and feel free to explain your reasoning.
Edit: I actually meant to post this thread in the "Off-Topic" board.
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Post by Big Notch on Feb 3, 2014 13:48:59 GMT -5
It's been moved... and I voted XBONE of course. Xbox has more exclusives. And based on the history PSN has of getting shut down by hackers, I think i'm going to stick to what I know. Plus, the XBL community as always been more vibrant and lively.
I might end up getting both.. but it'll be a while before that happens.
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vipr9
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Post by vipr9 on Feb 3, 2014 13:57:25 GMT -5
Where is the none option? They are still coming out with games for the 360 and probably still will for a few years. Not to mention most of the good next gen games are on the 360 too. Plus there are still dozens of 360 games I haven't played yet. Right now at least, the graphics are a little better sure, but $400 better? No.
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Post by Big Notch on Feb 3, 2014 14:20:47 GMT -5
I say, by the end of the year games will quit coming out for the PS3 & 360. Even the new ones that are released this year will be watered down versions of the XB1 & PS4 versions of the game.
And just like before, the graphics on the Next Gen consoles will improve over time as the developers smarten up and learn how to fully utilize the potential of the hardware.
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Post by xXKiddkasHXx on Feb 3, 2014 15:05:30 GMT -5
I have to disagree. They said the same thing with the PS2. But lets be factual for second. The possibilities available on the PS3/360 are nothing compared to that of the PS4/XbOne. There's so much you can now do on the next gen console that those who are going to stick with PS3 and 360 will never understand.
1. The RAM of the PS3/360 has increased from 500 MB to 8 GB! For you math geeks out there, that's 16 TIMES MORE RAM! That alone is a tremendous jump!
2. The graphic capabilities are higher than ever. With even finer resolution on 1080p and 1080i (PS4 Only) resolutions and with the new graphics engines they have in place.
Do you realize that you are actually missing out on ACTUAL CONTENT? Not just graphics. Why? Because the PS3/360 can't handle/manage the new quality of content being created on Next-Gen consoles. Are you okay with that? Are you okay with not getting the bang for your buck?
When I hear people say "They'll keep creating games for the previous gen" it makes me laugh. It's like it's their kid's first day of college and they just don't want to let go because they're growing up too fast.
Yeah, maybe they'll continue making games on PS3/360 for a couple more years, but I promise you that they will not compare to the quality, experience, complexity, and potential of the PS4/XbOne in any way, shape, or form.
And these beginning games aren't even that great yet! Yes, I am talking about WatchDogs, The Division, Uncharted, Titanfall, etc. These games are barely scratching the surface. And it's an honest shame for those who have no clue on what they're missing out on. If I were you, I wouldn't try to suppress the change of the gaming world. But go along with it. Because it is the youngest industry out there and still growing dramatically.
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Post by xXKiddkasHXx on Feb 3, 2014 15:11:58 GMT -5
And just like before, the graphics on the Next Gen consoles will improve over time as the developers smarten up and learn how to fully utilize the potential of the hardware. You've gotten it backwards. The developers already have games in development that even the PS4/XbOne can't handle yet. What isn't there is the technology. It's the engineers that create the hardware, the technological scientists. The developers just write the code/scripts and build the game on top of the hardware that they have available. If you look under the hood of the XbOne and the PS4, you may very well see similar parts because they buy them from third party companies. So it's not the developers that actually create the components of a console but rather other companies that have engineers to do so. I may even bet that major companies such as Sony or Microsoft may have their own set of engineers that work on what hardware they can come up with to make their console unique. But in that dispute, it would be Sony with the upper hand because the PS4 can technically perform better than the XbOne. |
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Post by xXKiddkasHXx on Feb 3, 2014 15:38:43 GMT -5
Where is the none option? They are still coming out with games for the 360 and probably still will for a few years. Not to mention most of the good next gen games are on the 360 too. Plus there are still dozens of 360 games I haven't played yet. Right now at least, the graphics are a little better sure, but $400 better? No.
A: True, but they will not compare in these categories: Overall Graphics, Gameplay Mechanics, Environmental Cohesiveness, Sound Quality and Variety, Content Availability and Capability. Count on it. "Not to mention most of the good next gen games are on the 360 too."
A: First off, it's only for $$$. They can't produce 100+ million consoles so quickly. So in order to still grab money from those who still haven't gotten their hands on the next-gen consoles, they sell it on the PS3/360 as well. But little do you know that it's not just the graphics that are different. Sounds are taken out, Gameplay is dumbed down, ACTUAL CONTENT is removed completely from the game as if it never existed. And that's just a few reasons you will not get the full experience of the game(s). "Plus there are still dozens of 360 games I haven't played yet."
A: Understandable, play away my fellow gamer! "Right now at least, the graphics are a little better sure, but $400 better? No."
Absolutely! Search up comparisons of previous-gen graphics with the next-gen graphics. $400 better? Maybe not, but that's not all you're paying for. The computer processors are now 8 core, not seven; which means it's a more powerful computer period. When/If you get a next-gen console your $400 would be for the Graphics, Advanced Gameplay, Finer Resolutions, an abundance of more Content, and new/innovative games that are/will become so innovative PS3/Xb360 won't even be able to handle them. |
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Post by vipr9 on Feb 3, 2014 15:48:13 GMT -5
You guys are right, but honestly I don't care. Most of my favorite games of all time were on the ps1, n64, original xbox, psp, snes, or ps2. Ok, the new consoles are better in every way, that does not mean the gameplay and/or story of the games are.
You guys are more about the technical aspects of games than me. I'm just as happy emulating a JRPG from ps1 as I am playing a new 360 game.
For example, how many millions of people still play world of warcraft? That shit came out 10 years ago! And how many people prefer the older diablo games to diablo 3? Just recently I played Mafia 2. This game could not hold a candle to Mafia 1, which came out in 2002. Not everyone cares about having the latest and greatest technical abilities in there games. GTA IV looked so much better than previous gta games. Did I like it better than any of the ps2 gta games? Fuck no.
Anyway, PS4 if I don't hate the controller, because my friends will be on it. Also fuck microsoft for all their bs original policies (which they can reverse again whenever they want?)
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Post by CHARlotteANNeGTA on Feb 3, 2014 15:48:44 GMT -5
I voted for PS4, as i've stuck with Play Stations since PS1's. And when I play on Xboxes the buttons confuse me, especially the "x" button. Because on PlayStations the x button is at the bottom, not at the left hand side lmao.
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Post by xXKiddkasHXx on Feb 3, 2014 15:58:57 GMT -5
I agree with you on playing older games on older consoles.
Mortal Kombat on Super Nintendo, Golden Eye on N64, Twisted Metal on PS1. I love those consoles and a lot of great games were created on past console and still to this day I play them. But at the same time, I have a love for games in general. Past, Present, or Future I will want to get them if they have something to bring to the table. And right now, working in the Movie/Game industry, I am very excited with the advancement of games and what you can now achieve on games in today's day-and-age. I feel that people who genuinely love games will continue to get games/consoles no matter how old/new, technologically advanced/inferior they are. If that wasn't the case, people would still be playing pong that extremely large gizmo of a machine. All in all, I'm very excited for what the Next-Gen will bring. But at the same time, I will enjoy playing Metal Gear on my PS1. Haha.
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Post by Big Notch on Feb 3, 2014 16:18:35 GMT -5
And just like before, the graphics on the Next Gen consoles will improve over time as the developers smarten up and learn how to fully utilize the potential of the hardware. You've gotten it backwards. The developers already have games in development that even the PS4/XbOne can't handle yet. What isn't there is the technology. It's the engineers that create the hardware, the technological scientists. The developers just write the code/scripts and build the game on top of the hardware that they have available. If you look under the hood of the XbOne and the PS4, you may very well see similar parts because they buy them from third party companies. So it's not the developers that actually create the components of a console but rather other companies that have engineers to do so. I may even bet that major companies such as Sony or Microsoft may have their own set of engineers that work on what hardware they can come up with to make their console unique. But in that dispute, it would be Sony with the upper hand because the PS4 can technically perform better than the XbOne. I don't have anything backwards. And I didn't say anything about the developers creating hardware. The developers have to find away to take their content and make it work efficiently on the provided hardware kits. Depending on the developer, they just might have to scale the content down in order for it to run smoothly on the next gen consoles because next gen consoles aren't really "next gen" at all. In fact, the hardware on the "Next Gen" consoles are actually about two years behind the curve and that is to keep the cost of them down. The PS4 hardware specs are slighly better than the xbox one. But that means absolutely nothing because most developers are not going to utilize the little extra power that playstation has when developing for both consoles because that increases production costs. Why develop a game for xbox... and then re-engineer and compile all of that code JUST to take advantage of a little more power. 99% will not do that, which is why there are hardly any differences between PS3 & 360 games currently in terms of graphics and performance. The real differences lie in a few things. The amounts of exclusive titles, the amount of exclusive features & content, the user interface and experience, and how they all work together. And in my opinion, the Xbox One has greater potential in all of these areas. Yes, it might cost $100 more, but i'm getting an experience that is unique with that $100. |
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Post by vipr9 on Feb 3, 2014 16:21:17 GMT -5
It will be interesting to see the future of gaming, I feel the graphics have somewhat plateaued. Some games even now the actual gameplay is indistinguishable from the pre-rendered cut scenes.
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Post by xXKiddkasHXx on Feb 3, 2014 16:28:06 GMT -5
I respect your argument big notch. A valid one at that. We'll see in the near future what actually prevails. Which will be quite interesting to see as vipr9 has stated. But right now the PS4 is leading in sales. If your theory is accurate big notch, then we should see a turn of tables, correct? I'm not completely ruling out the XbOne because it does have some interesting features. But I think PS4 is more focused on Gaming than the XbOne which is why they will either lose this war or win. And at the moment, they are losing. But I honestly can't tell if they will lose in the long run or not.
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Post by Big Notch on Feb 3, 2014 16:39:53 GMT -5
It will be interesting to see the future of gaming, I feel the graphics have somewhat plateaued. Some games even now the actual gameplay is indistinguishable from the pre-rendered cut scenes. I agree. I remember when I was a kid playing N64 (which is still my favorite system BTW), and being BLOWN AWAY at the graphical leap from that to the new PS2. It was a major leap. Now-a-days, the next generation content seems underwhelming to say the least. |
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Post by Big Notch on Feb 3, 2014 16:46:52 GMT -5
I respect your argument big notch. A valid one at that. We'll see in the near future what actually prevails. Which will be quite interesting to see as vipr9 has stated. But right now the PS4 is leading in sales. If your theory is accurate big notch, then we should see a turn of tables, correct? I'm not completely ruling out the XbOne because it does have some interesting features. But I think PS4 is more focused on Gaming than the XbOne which is why they will either lose this war or win. And at the moment, they are losing. But I honestly can't tell if they will lose in the long run or not. No doubt, but that's simply because of the $500 price tag and the bullshit that M$ pulled early on during E3. People say that PS4 is catered more towards gamers, but that's just pure marketing. It's not like the PS4 does any better at gaming than the Xbox One does. The only reason I would buy a PS4 at this point would be because of the emulation of PS2 & PS1 games, and the fact that it can stream to twitch TV directly. But nothing is stopping M$ from doing the same thing with the Xbox One in the future, so is that really an advantage? |
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